Welcome to Sequim & Port Angeles Real Estate, a Branch Office of Adamas Realty
25 Feb
I am neither an architect nor a home builder, but in all my work I have always had a sincere desire to seek the truth, wherever that may lead. As a real estate attorney for 20 years I saw repeating patterns in which consumers kept getting the short stick in their relationships with other professionals (lawyers, accountants, financial advisers, architects, contractors, real estate agents, auto mechanics, and the list goes on). After years of recognizing the pattern that was far from consumer-centric, I learned to ask new questions. I learned that it was not wise to assume, but much wiser to do one’s due diligence and to carefully reconsider conventional wisdom.
It is conventional wisdom that if you are planning to have your next home built, you should first hire an architect. It is that part of me that has been through the school of hard knocks on behalf of hundreds of clients who got hurt by such assumptions, that causes me to question it and to review the entire process and experiences of many who have gone before.
So the question is, “Who do you hire first–the architect or the home builder?” Most would assume the answer is the architect. But is that true, and what are the implications of hiring the architect first? Let’s play this out by running parallel experiences–one where the client hires the architect first, and the other where the client hires the home builder first.
Hire the Architect First. A California couple had been reading about Sequim for five years and decided to purchase an incredible 10 acre parcel overlooking the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Once they purchased their property, they contacted a Seattle architect, because an architect they knew of in Santa Barbara had recommended him. After some meetings, telephone calls, and emails, they signed a contract with their Seattle architect. A standard fee for a Seattle architect is 8% to 10% of the cost of the house. Since the house was estimated to cost $1 million, their architect’s fee would be about $100,000.
The architect immediately began the detailed architectural plans, which would take many weeks. The architect had a good friend who was a custom home builder (also in the Seattle Metro area), and he strongly urged his clients to hire that builder. He did mention a couple of other builders, but his voice and facial expressions gave him away, and clearly the only builder he trusted was “the one.” He did not mention to his clients that he refers all the business he can to that builder who is a good friend. In the real world, it is common for referrals for expensive projects to be richly rewarded under the table. I will assume that did not happen in this case, but let’s not be naive to conflicts of interest that may cost consumers a lot of money without them ever knowing.
The clients accept their architect’s recommendation to the Seattle builder who is willing to build a home in Sequim. He may even say as a matter of fact that he has built homes in Sequim or Port Angeles. When the architect finishes his work, he gives the plans to the builder. There hasn’t been a lot of communication between the two. The architect is an artist, and all he really wants to see is that his masterpiece is built within his vision. The architect is not a builder, never has been, and is not good at estimating the actual cost of materials and labor to implement his vision. Therefore, the architect has many expensive features in the design that the clients would not want if they knew it would add greatly to the cost for a pretty but not especially functional purpose.
On the other hand, the custom home builder is concerned about cost, and he recognizes those features that add excessive costs, but he has a great relationship with the architect, who referred these clients to him, and so the builder does not spend a lot of time educating his clients about ways to reduce the cost while achieving their personal dream within their original design concept. The clients trust their architect and their builder. Both are at the top of their profession, and they are not cheap. They must be the best, and surely they have their client’s interests in mind.
As the builder begins building the home, he finds a number of small but not inexpensive nuances in the architectural plans. They are actually mistakes or features the architect literally did not address or forgot. For example, the architect did not include drainage spouts on the house, which also did not address the need for curtain drains and the additional drainage needed around the house. The plans had to be sent back to the architect, edited, and then builder would implement the edited plans. This change alone added almost $12,000 to the total cost. But there were half a dozen other changes the builder recommended were essential to avoid other problems in the future.
What did not happen here that should have was a good line of communication between the architect and the home builder from the very beginning. When cost is not a factor for the professionals involved, communication is less important, and educating the clients to more efficient ways to complete the design they have in their minds is also less important.
In this case, the completed cost of the home, not counting the price of the land, was $1.25 million. The architect charged $100,000. The clients got their home, but there were numerous features they paid for that they did not need and would not have paid for if they had known how much those features added.
One of the lessons here is that architects are not motivated to keep costs down. They are motivated to see their vision completed by a builder. A builder who has a lock with a Seattle architect is most likely a very expensive builder who is also not motivated to reduce the cost to the client. The higher the price of the home, the more the builder makes. Most builders are paid on a cost-plus contract.
Hire the Home Builder First. Home builders are not all the same, just like Realtors are not all the same. It is critical to do your due diligence to find a truly competent and honest home builder who will give you straight estimates and be honest with you throughout the project planning and construction. You can literally discuss your design plans with this kind of home builder and talk about how he works with an architect to make sure that your home is built the way you want it built.
But there is another huge factor that is vitally important to you, and that is your home builder must understand your budget and your priorities. This means your home builder must work to help you achieve your goal without wasting a single dollar on features you don’t really care about. That cupola is cute, but would you really want it if you knew it would cost you $7,000? Probably not. That ceiling dome in the dining room the architect designed is beautiful, but would you pay for it if you knew that a first class ceiling dome was made of fiberglass, gypsum or polyurethane, and would add $18,000 to the cost of your home? Maybe not.
Hiring a builder who is on your side means he is not motivated to inflate the cost of your home, or to accept an architect’s design that will cost you a lot more. A good builder can suggest ways to the architect that will actually reduce the cost of your home. Remember, the architect is not trained in estimating costs or motivated to keep costs down. But a concientious builder can work with you and an honest architect as a team to achieve your goals within your budget. By the way, be sure your home builder is not using a cost-plus contract, but a guaranteed contract price. That’s honesty and integrity.
In this second scenario, the builder and the architect communicated from the very beginning. In fact, the builder and the architect sat down together before anything was put to paper, and they discussed the clients’ goals and desires and budget. The architectural plans were designed with all that in mind, and the architect charged $9,000, not $100,000. It gets better. The home builder was able to build the client’s dream home for $800,000, not $1.25 million.
These two scenarios are based on true stories, although I have not revealed any names or specifics in order to protect the guilty. The real point of this exercise is to share real life information with you so that you can make wise decisions for you and your family. One of my life’s passions is protecting consumers from those who pretend to work in consumers’ best interests but don’t.
You’ll read many articles on the Internet insisting that your best approach is to hire an architect first, but it’s simply not in your best interests, at least not in the real world. I have a simple statement that answers a lot of questions when you are trying to find out the truth of someone’s motivation. I like to say that the answer is often revealed if you just “follow the money.”
Would I take a referral fee for referring someone to a builder or to an architect? I would, but only if the builder or the architect were truly working in the client’s best interests, and the fee they paid me did not in any way compromise their dream or the cost to achieve their dream. In any event, I would discuss that with my client, because I believe in full disclosure. Most of all, I believe that consumers deserve the whole truth and unconditional honesty and loyalty from the professionals they hire.
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5 Responses for "Who Should I Hire First – Architect or Builder?"
Your information is not at all complete and very detrimental to licensed architects. Where you are quick to state in your article that Architect “A” charged 8%-10% of the construction cost for his services, you then shift to another scenario where Architect “B” charged only 1% for his services. Now there’s a very big gap between fees here for the same project. If any architect can design an $800,000 custom new home for a 1% fee then he is crazy and will be out of business soon. The only way to bring down an architect’s fees is to reduce the scope of his services which was probably done with Architect “B”. It appears that the contractor in this scenario was very involved in the planning of the project and could simplify and reduce the scope of required services by the Architect. This helps to reduce fees, but the contractor can only go so far-he is not designing the structure, sealing the plans and taking responsibility for the design. For a full scope of architectural services for a custon new house, services that will benefit any homeowner unless the architect is not qualified, a fee of 8-10% of the construction cost is reasonable.
Better than this, ask the architect to structure his fee as a lump sum based on a specific description of services from start to finish.
Response from Chuck Marunde: Thank you for reading my article and taking the time to share your thoughts. You say that my information is not all complete, but you are not able to explain what is incomplete or what is not true about this article. The two examples on architect fees are both true. This article was written with 37 years of experience with clients telling me their experiences, so this article is based on reality and many many clients’ difficult experiences. You suggest that the architect in my article who only charged 1% would be out of business. Not true. That was his fee, and he designs the best homes I’ve ever seen. As a matter of fact, he used to be a high priced Seattle architect who charged $80,000 a pop for house plans. You argue that there’s nothing wrong with an architect charging 8 to 10% of the cost of the home. I respect your opinion, but I (and many many clients) disagree. That is an exorbitant fee. I understand one of the largest Seattle architectural firms went out of business this past year and after decades, they are gone. Of course, the market is down and people are not building homes like they used to. We all get that, but the architects who were making millions of dollars in fees are now unemployed. Maybe they are going to have to develop a different business model and charge less fees. Offices with lower overhead could help them. Using the Internet and efficient technologies could help them. A new marketing approach could help them. We will all be glad when the real estate market comes back from the grave, but let’s face it, we all must adjust our business models. I think architects must re-create themselves, too.
If architect “B” designed a home for $9000, let’s assume he charged $100/hour. (my plumber charges more per hour as does my mechanic). This means that architect “B” could only work 90 hours which is less than 12 days. Two weeks to draw an entire house? can you show where the quality is in 12 days worth of detail and thought in a million dollar home? I would like to see the drawings comparing the two Thanks.
Oh, yes follow the money…you stated that Architect “A” only cared about his artistic vision, but end your article with that famous phrase “follow the money”
Do you have proof of your sweeping statement that all architects get kickbacks from builders they recommend? I have gotten many, many projects for many builders and never, ever have I received “money under the table”. True, I don’t recommend the “one”, even if I have favorites, precisely so that the client can interview various builders and make their own choice. But nonetheless, they aren’t getting the job without my reference. But your article, regardless of some truth in it (SOME architects don’t know about construction (I do);SOME architects don’t care about budgets (I do), etc.) paints architects as completely irresponsible, self-centered and, basically, cheats, unless they charge about 1%. I don’t make as much money as sub-contractors or generals as is: unless one has tremendous, tremendous volume, one cannot charge the fees you mention. And as far as I’m concerned, such volume would mean I wouldn’t be able to do the creative design clients are paying me for in the first place. I don’t have an issue with someone hiring someone for the lowest fee but I see so much garbage out there because of that, that I wouldn’t be so quick to paint selfish architects as the problem. They can have more value than you think, and I’ve seen the other side of your story: clients with a lifetime of expertise in the real estate world that understand the value added by good design and how worthwhile it is. Luckily I have happy clients and I’ve always worked hand in hand with builders getting the budget right at the earliest stages.
Editor: With all due respect, you do not read very well. The author never said “all architects get kickbacks.” Not even close. If that was the premise of your argument, I think it is reasonable to suggest that your argument fails as it is based on false conclusions. You sound like an architect who has integrity, and for that I commend you. But you also wrongly conclude that the author “paints architects as completely irresponsible, self-centered and, basically cheats.” The author never wrote any of those things. You did. You appear to be very defensive. Why? The author wrote his opinion and analysis based on 37 years in real estate, including 20 years as a real estate attorney, plus 30 years of experience by a highly successful builder. That is 67 years of experience, and I think the article very articulately expressed a very consumer-oriented and solidly reasoned opinion. Your arguments, I think, are very emotional, and jump to erroneous conclusions. The factual analysis and consumer advice in the article stand. Let consumers decide who’s advice is in their best interests.
Great article. I would say this is quite accurate. My brother in law went through a nightmare, but he might have saved himself a lot of problems and attorney’s fees if he had read your article first. Thank you.
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